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May 14, 2008

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Sounds like it was a tiring trip - geez, I think I have to subscribe to your Twitter updates, I missed out on all the nonsense you were going through.

Hope things are better now, and can't wait to hear about Aristotle, Montesquieu and the landscape (I'm gonna copy it and dump it in my dissertation, should get me a page more written).

I'm afraid I was half-joking about Montesquieu, Aristotle and the landscape/ climate. Not sure I'll write that post, although it's something I do think about every now and then, especially when I'm flying into a new country or observing new landscapes, but it's more of thought-experiment than anything else. As in: what if I were to apply these thoughts to how remarkably square, symmetric and, well, rigid or at least ordered, the Dutch fields are compared to Norwegian or English fields, when seen from the air - what if we could to deduct something about the Dutch from this observation, for fun if nothing else.

The backdrop is how the philosophers I mentioned thought the climate had an influence on national character: according to Montesquieu, for instance, Southern Europeans were overtly hot-tempered, lazy sensualits, whereas the Northern Europeans ( Scandinavians) were icy and stiff, but also brave and energetic (think the Vikings). The French on the other hand, Montesquieu being French himself, were living in the perfect climate and hence had the perfect temperament:-) I'm sure Wikipedia etc. will tell your more about this or point you to more sources...

Yeah, it's actually something we covered in class but I never could make head or tail of. What follows is just speculation.

I think Montesquieu is trying to be funny more than anything: he says my ancestors spent all day lounging around in the sun in loin cloths, and I know that would never have happened because it is way too gross b/c of the heat already to do such a thing.

- Well, on second thought, maybe it did happen. -

The more serious points covered in class revolved around a cold climate being conducive to the laws in a way: it is no coincidence, for Montesquieu, that England is cold and has a decent political order. The Germanic tribes and Germanic law (which English law is rooted in for Mont.) were decidedly influenced by a cold climate, where temperance was a necessity and sensual pleasures couldn't quite be indulged in as easily. Whereas hotter climates were conducive to tyranny.

The story sounds ridiculous and is meant to be ridiculous to a degree. The really deep point according to Prof. Mansfield (cf. "Taming the Prince") is that the characteristics which define a people are not being tied to any strict principle, or the rationale behind a people's own laws and customs. Rather, laws and customs are outgrowths of something physiological. In making this move, however laughable, Mont. is breaking with Aristotle and Aquinas and the idea that "reason" has anything to do with politics fundamentally.

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